What is a Final Decree?

I don't believe you should have to explain to anyone the reasons you want a divorce. You didn't have to explain why you wanted to get married before they would issue you a marriage license. I don't see how one's marriage or any type of relationship and the reasons for splitting up is any of the court's business.

I wasn't required to give a reason when I filed for divorce. We didn't even have to appear in front of a judge. Why should our government have the right to know every intimate detail of our lives?

My husband wants the divorce records sealed and I do not. He previously said he would agree to pay half of child care if I would not depose him and I haven't, but some of the information he does not want the public to know was brought up in a temporary hearing. Can the judge rule to seal the records even if I do not agree to it?

@jmc88 - That is an interesting question you ask. I guess in a way appeals courts have final decrees, even though I am not sure they are stated like that. Like you probably know, those types of courts writing decisions regarding how the judges voted on a certain issue and why. It seems like that would provide a little bit more than a final decree would, since it is in more detail. Also, the article says a judge signs off on a final decree, but would that still need to happen with 3 or more judges?

On the other hand, though, it seems like there still might need to be some sort of paperwork that could be filed on the public record that is just a brief statement about the decision.

Does anyone know where you would find final decrees? Are they just something that you could go to the county courthouse and ask for, or do you have to be associated with the case in some way?

@cardsfan27 - I know in my state, whenever you go to small claims court, they issues something called a "final order." It basically outlines the final ruling by the judge and what needs to happen. It is just things you mentioned like what needs to be paid and by what date.

I would assume they have to have some sort of a final decree for criminal cases, too. My guess is that the topics mentioned so far get more attention because people are really concerned about what they say. In a divorce, everyone is concerned about who is going to get custody of kids or property. In an adoption, you need to make the guardianship official. When it comes to a criminal case, people aren't going to be too concerned about the charges, because there is probably not a lot of negotiating that is going to happen.

Back to your small claims court question, though, it got me thinking in the other direction of whether or not higher courts like Circuit Courts and the Supreme Court would have final decrees.

@JimmyT - I know that I have also heard of a bankruptcy final decree. I guess it would sort of be the same thing as a divorce except you're getting separated from you debt! I don't know what all would go into that, but I am assuming it would have something to do with how much you owed as well as what possessions you had that would be liquidized and put toward the debt. It might also specificy any other conditions like wage garnishment or something like that.

From the way I understand it, a final decree would be present in every case. I am guessing in a criminal case, there would be information about the final charges, the sentence, and the time by which fines and things like that had to be paid.

Now that I am thinking about it, I wonder if they make final decrees for civil suits like in small claims court.

@David09 - I agree with you. I guess the idea is that people getting married are expected to stay together for life, but that isn't too common anymore. If people decide they don't want to be together anymore, I don't think it is really the court's problem to care about the details of why.

Outside of the examples of divorce and adoption from the article, are there any other common situations where a court will issue a final decree? Along the same lines, is a final decree present in every case, it is just more commonly discussed in certain types of cases?

@miriam98 - I don’t think you’ll have any luck there. The term “irreconcilable differences” appears on the divorce form. It’s one of the items that the parties are supposed to check if they apply. There doesn’t seem to be much room for explanation.

I suppose the court proceedings will allow the parties to elaborate some more, I don’t know. I agree the courts should make it a little more difficult, but you have to understand they are not in the marriage counseling business.

They are there to settle a legal dispute. Marriage is a legal contract. The courts can create the contract, and they can break it. I’m sure the judge has other things he must deal with. The parties need to go through counseling before they get to the courts.

Thankfully I have no firsthand experience in how to divorce a spouse – and I don’t want any. One thing that I’ve never understood is the term “irreconcilable differences.”

I know what the term means, but I think it has just become some sort of catch-all phrase for two parties who want to split up without explaining why.

I believe the judge needs to press the petitioners on what exactly do they mean by the term, and why they can’t work things out. Perhaps this is already part of the divorce proceeding, I don’t know.

I just think that divorce has become way too easy in our society. People need to be encouraged to work things out. If the couple’s differences are really irreconcilable, why weren’t they aware of them before the marriage contract?

I’m just playing devil’s advocate here for how I think the petitioners should be questioned.

I think it's interesting that in a closed adoption, they issue a final decree but then make it inaccessible somehow. I wonder what would happen if someone contested the adoption later for some reason?

I suppose the court probably keeps a record of it somewhere. But hiding it seems like it could really put a damper on any legal proceedings in the future. What if the adoptive parents needed it for some reason?

@Azuza - Yeah, the concept does make sense. I think it's crazy how long and drawn out the process of divorce is though. In my opinion they should just issue the final decree right away and be done with it.

In my state, it takes over a year to get divorced. You have to separated for a year, and go through all the legal proceedings before the final decree can be issued. I remember when my parents got divorced my mom was so happy when the long process was over and the judge finally issued the final decree of divorce!

I'm not that familiar with our legal system. I've never had to deal with a final divorce decree or been part of an adoption. However, I do think the idea of the final decree makes sense.

I feel like in law, you have a lot of chances to appeal a case. If you don't like the way to first court rules, you can appeal and take it to a higher court. It makes sense that at some point, the case has to be totally done and finalized. Having a final decree seems like it would do the trick.